Comments on: Future of Everhour Invoicing https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/ Project Management & Productivity Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:02:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.1 By: Karena Kreger https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-546 Thu, 01 Jan 2015 15:05:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-546 I am just jumping in with Everhours today as we are desperately needing this missing piece between our Trello tasking and our Xero invoicing. I love the simplicity of the invoice process to integration with Xero. But I see one major red flag and one other irritating item.

First) How do I know when I generate the next round of invoices which hours have already been sent to Xero and which ones have not been billed? I”m assuming I’m expected to do this by date only, but I often have some tasks that are not yet ready to bill that may need to be remembered at a later date and to go back and bill. This could become a nightmare. Is there a flag or tag that could be set on the entry to indicate it has been billed?

Secondly) Xero uses Items and Descriptions in their invoices line items. Items are a list of Inventory Items that I can set/use for my own reporting. Why can I not pull those Items into Xero from Everhour (again tags?) Instead all the Items are blank and the Descriptions are the entries coming from Everhour. When I try to edit the invoice and set the item, Xero overwrites the description which ruins the point of the integration in the first place. What am I missing here? How should this be working?

Thank you again for a great product!

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By: Mike Kulakov https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-528 Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:40:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-528 In reply to MarkC.

Hey Mark,

I can promise that our major focus always will be time tracking and analysis. We never do something requested by a single person, ’cause it affects everyone.

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By: MarkC https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-527 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 19:24:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-527 Please DO NOT put any energy into invoicing on your product. I came across your product because it executes a fundamental task exceptionally well! Focus on what you do best and focus on perfecting the art of time tracking – my 2 cents. We use Podio for Contract Admin and Project Management. Xero for accounting and a few others for admin/IT tasks. We’re actually considering signing up, but only if you promise to stay focused 😉

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By: Yuji Tomita https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-526 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:12:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-526 In reply to Mike Kulakov.

I’m doing that currently, but I still have no way to be certain that one set of hours was accounted for. It’s too easy to forget that 1/20 clients was not exported last month.. or that I had a filter on that didn’t capture all hours.. and so on!

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By: Mike Kulakov https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-520 Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:06:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-520 In reply to brock brown.

Very helpful. Thx.

Completely agree with you. We are also going to add Zapier integration soon.
As for QB integration – first version is going to be very simple. But we will keep your notes for further enhancements.

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By: brock brown https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-519 Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:17:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-519 We use Quickbooks online which is why, even though we really liked Everhour and its integration with BaseCamp (which we use for project tracking) we had to go with another solution. My company’s current love affair with web apps stems from the fact that most do only a few things but do this extremely well. Any additional functionality comes from wiring the app to another either via straight integration or use of a provider like Zapier. As long as Everhour has the ability to map clients and time entry types to a customers and billing codes in QBO, then we are happy. THE ONLY exception to this is retainer functionality and maybe contract management. QBO does not do either of those so either our time tracking solution has to OR we run the time through ANOTHER service before ultimately ending up as an invoice. Hope this is helpful!

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By: Mike Kulakov https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-518 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:36:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-518 In reply to Yuji Tomita.

Yuji, here is the process as i can see (plz let me know your thoughts):

– Every 2 weeks (or month) I do invoicing
– I go to reports
– Apply certain filters (period of time, members, projects)
– Make sure everyone filled timesheets
– Export hours for customer #1, customer #2 etc.
– Export to Xero
– I may need to update an invoice at this point (add discount, include extra expenses etc.)
– Send invoices

Everything else is handled by Xero (or other system).

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By: Mike Kulakov https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-517 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:23:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-517 In reply to Nathaniel Cooper.

Nathaniel, Thanks for your feedback.

As said, we don’t want to rush into quick solutions. We cannot add or change something ’cause it was requested by a single person or company. Every change, even small one affects all existing customers.

Integrations are quick and quite straightforward. So it is not a big deal for us to add one or two more.

But ‘accounting’ and other money aspects as you’ve fairly mentioned, are quite complex things.

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By: Nathaniel Cooper https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-516 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 01:12:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-516 I like on paper the idea of pushing hours worked from everhour to the accounting system of choice . However, I probably would not use everhour for invoicing purposes. In practice, its not that big of a deal to more to simply do data entry by project/billable status in everhour and weekly doing data entry on the timesheet system of choice. Another drawback is that every client seems to have a different time keeping/invoicing system.

Its not essential for me to either integrate with the time keeping or invoicing system. Invoicing for me is something that I fill out and generate, send out, and update when the payment comes in. Its not something that I look at everyday or care about seeing in everhour. What is essential is the quick data entry, extraction of time related elements and tagging.

Being able to mark a time entry (as opposed to a project) billable or nor billable is something you can already do by tagging. Focusing on tagging (and reports) are something that is more important to me since it represents a core feature of the tool that makes it different than everyone else.

Also once you get into the ‘accounting’ and money aspects you wind up dealing with all sorts of legal,security, and financial regulations from governments and corporate policy. I think moving in that direction for everhour will make a whole bunch of headaches for you, with very little upside and lots of competition. Just look at a system like Deltek. Do you really want that headache?

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By: Yuji Tomita https://everhour.com/blog/insights-future-everhour-invoicing/#comment-515 Thu, 04 Sep 2014 16:59:00 +0000 https://everhour.com/blog/?p=2085#comment-515 It’s critically important to simply track whether an hour has been invoiced or not. For example in harvest, hours are either invoiced or not invoiced. An hour can have exactly 1 invoice associated to it. Whether that invoice is unpaid, unsent, etc., doesn’t matter.. at least we know what has been handled and what hasn’t.

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